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\u00ab Les preuves sugg\u00e8rent que le commandant de la Jasta 2, Stefan Kirmaier, pourrait \u00eatre le v\u00e9ritable vainqueur du 2767. Lui et Richthofen ont chacun \u00e9t\u00e9 cr\u00e9dit\u00e9s d’une victoire ce jour-l\u00e0, mais les archives du RFC indiquent qu’un seul appareil a \u00e9t\u00e9 perdu au-dessus des lignes de la m\u00eame mani\u00e8re que le 2767. Les victoires de Richthofen et Kirmaier ont \u00e9t\u00e9 revendiqu\u00e9es \u00e0 moins de dix minutes et deux miles l’une de l’autre, c’est-\u00e0-dire presque simultan\u00e9ment et au m\u00eame endroit. Neuf ans apr\u00e8s la guerre, Clarke a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que lui et Cunningham avaient \u00e9t\u00e9 attaqu\u00e9s par cinq avions allemands. 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